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#1 · 10 Juni, 2004, 1658
Zitat von maestro am 10 Juni, 2004, 1658 Uhr

ok, just making conversation ...

Given that you all don't seem to be too impressed with Van Helsing, what WOULD be your fave vampire films? Any you'd recommend?

Me personally,I'd have to go with the Ultraviolet TV series, the way it has you guessing up until the end just who are the good guys are. Also made the whole "vampires among us" idea pretty plausable.

If I had to pick a film though, I'd go for Shadow of the Vampire. Eddy Izard's facial expressions are worth the money alone.


ok, just making conversation ...

Given that you all don't seem to be too impressed with Van Helsing, what WOULD be your fave vampire films? Any you'd recommend?

Me personally,I'd have to go with the Ultraviolet TV series, the way it has you guessing up until the end just who are the good guys are. Also made the whole "vampires among us" idea pretty plausable.

If I had to pick a film though, I'd go for Shadow of the Vampire. Eddy Izard's facial expressions are worth the money alone.

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#2 · 20 Juni, 2004, 2356
Zitat von maestro am 20 Juni, 2004, 2356 Uhr

i liked the stainless steel coffin-bed from blade one, actually most of the film was good as i liked the way they portrayed the modern day vamp - all glass and black leather...


i liked the stainless steel coffin-bed from blade one, actually most of the film was good as i liked the way they portrayed the modern day vamp - all glass and black leather...

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#3 · 21 Juni, 2004, 1712
Zitat von belos am 21 Juni, 2004, 1712 Uhr

100% agree....ULTRAVIOLET is fantastic!

I've heard, they are planning a movie on that, but I don't know if it will
be the same as the series.

I doubt a regular movie can beat the series!

Here's a old but good one....I have it at home on DVD,
Dryers VAMPYR..........I think it was shot in 1929, 1930......

Dracula 2000.....not bad, I liked the Judas Iscariot angle, and I really liked
the sequal they made after that.

Blade....I'm not a real fan of the Blade films


100% agree....ULTRAVIOLET is fantastic!

I've heard, they are planning a movie on that, but I don't know if it will
be the same as the series.

I doubt a regular movie can beat the series!

Here's a old but good one....I have it at home on DVD,
Dryers VAMPYR..........I think it was shot in 1929, 1930......

Dracula 2000.....not bad, I liked the Judas Iscariot angle, and I really liked
the sequal they made after that.

Blade....I'm not a real fan of the Blade films

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#4 · 23 Juni, 2004, 1309
Zitat von maestro am 23 Juni, 2004, 1309 Uhr

@Belos wrote:

100% agree....ULTRAVIOLET is fantastic!

I've heard, they are planning a movie on that, but I don't know if it will
be the same as the series.

Wow that'd be ace if true.

Big fan of Jack Davonport (Michael), love coupling too.

Will go digging and see if I can find anything out about this.

@Belos wrote:

Dracula 2000.....not bad, I liked the Judas Iscariot angle, and I really liked
the sequal they made after that.

Didn't realise they'd made a sequel, hmm will have to look for that. Liked the twist with Helsing and also Dracula's real identity. You kinda kick yourself for never having made the connection before, all very good. Was a little overhyped, and given it was Wes Craven terribly disappointing in the scary jumpy out side of things.


@Belos wrote:

100% agree....ULTRAVIOLET is fantastic!

I've heard, they are planning a movie on that, but I don't know if it will
be the same as the series.

Wow that'd be ace if true.

Big fan of Jack Davonport (Michael), love coupling too.

Will go digging and see if I can find anything out about this.

@Belos wrote:

Dracula 2000.....not bad, I liked the Judas Iscariot angle, and I really liked
the sequal they made after that.

Didn't realise they'd made a sequel, hmm will have to look for that. Liked the twist with Helsing and also Dracula's real identity. You kinda kick yourself for never having made the connection before, all very good. Was a little overhyped, and given it was Wes Craven terribly disappointing in the scary jumpy out side of things.

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#5 · 25 Juni, 2004, 1724
Zitat von belos am 25 Juni, 2004, 1724 Uhr

I think it's Dracula: The Accension ( I'll have to check the cover)

The morgue gets his body from the burning cross in the first film, and realize they have a vamp.........they restore him to steal his blood for a "healing miracle" drig and get their asses bit off for the trouble.

I think the sequal....REALLY...was much better than the original.

Check out (on DVD) Dracula: the dark prince.....about Vlad....FINE FILM!!!!!


I think it's Dracula: The Accension ( I'll have to check the cover)

The morgue gets his body from the burning cross in the first film, and realize they have a vamp.........they restore him to steal his blood for a "healing miracle" drig and get their asses bit off for the trouble.

I think the sequal....REALLY...was much better than the original.

Check out (on DVD) Dracula: the dark prince.....about Vlad....FINE FILM!!!!!

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#6 · 28 Juni, 2004, 0502
Zitat von imported_noodle am 28 Juni, 2004, 0502 Uhr

I love all the old Hammer vampire films (and most of their horror films in general).
Vampire Hunter D, while not strictly a movie, is also pretty cool. In the anime vein I would also recommend Helsing.
Unfortunately, there aren't many decent vampire movies out there... Hollywood seems to be obsessed with the idea of vampires as prey for the limitless plethora of hunters they come up with. When they are treated as something other than horror cannon-fodder we might start to see more vampire movies worth watching.


I love all the old Hammer vampire films (and most of their horror films in general).
Vampire Hunter D, while not strictly a movie, is also pretty cool. In the anime vein I would also recommend Helsing.
Unfortunately, there aren't many decent vampire movies out there... Hollywood seems to be obsessed with the idea of vampires as prey for the limitless plethora of hunters they come up with. When they are treated as something other than horror cannon-fodder we might start to see more vampire movies worth watching.

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#7 · 28 Juni, 2004, 1230
Zitat von belos am 28 Juni, 2004, 1230 Uhr

If you like anime...Blood:The last vampire

Best vampire based anime I have yet to see :):):)

For a REAL good lugh (in a fun way)...get the Master of Mosqueton, series :)


If you like anime...Blood:The last vampire

Best vampire based anime I have yet to see :):):)

For a REAL good lugh (in a fun way)...get the Master of Mosqueton, series :)

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#8 · 30 Juni, 2004, 0150
Zitat von imported_noodle am 30 Juni, 2004, 0150 Uhr

@Belos wrote:

If you like anime...Blood:The last vampire

Yeah, Blood was pretty good. Although I prefered Helsing.


@Belos wrote:

If you like anime...Blood:The last vampire

Yeah, Blood was pretty good. Although I prefered Helsing.

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#9 · 30 Juni, 2004, 1628
Zitat von maestro am 30 Juni, 2004, 1628 Uhr

Unfortunately, there aren't many decent vampire movies out there... Hollywood seems to be obsessed with the idea of vampires as prey for the limitless plethora of hunters

That may of been the case back in my father's day... but you really shouldn't make such statements these days, especially when it isn't the case

Of the recent 'hollywood' vampire films that have been released, more have been empathic to vampires... Underworld, Shadow of the Vampire, Queen of the Damned .. and if you'll let me have it, The league of extraordinary gentlemen. Up against, what... Blade II and Van Helsing?

Even if memory serves me incorrect and I've missed a couple more, that's still around half and half. Hardly typical output from a film industry you seem to think is "obsessed" with portraying Vampires as simple stock goon villans.


Unfortunately, there aren't many decent vampire movies out there... Hollywood seems to be obsessed with the idea of vampires as prey for the limitless plethora of hunters

That may of been the case back in my father's day... but you really shouldn't make such statements these days, especially when it isn't the case

Of the recent 'hollywood' vampire films that have been released, more have been empathic to vampires... Underworld, Shadow of the Vampire, Queen of the Damned .. and if you'll let me have it, The league of extraordinary gentlemen. Up against, what... Blade II and Van Helsing?

Even if memory serves me incorrect and I've missed a couple more, that's still around half and half. Hardly typical output from a film industry you seem to think is "obsessed" with portraying Vampires as simple stock goon villans.

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#10 · 30 Juni, 2004, 1644
Zitat von maestro am 30 Juni, 2004, 1644 Uhr

on the other side you have hunter series as "Buffy" or "Angel" which almost always portray vampires as the bad guys and movies like the one with George Cloony and the whorehouse full of vamps ( lost the name of it) where vamps are the shabby and mostly dumb villains don't do much to give them a human character either


on the other side you have hunter series as "Buffy" or "Angel" which almost always portray vampires as the bad guys and movies like the one with George Cloony and the whorehouse full of vamps ( lost the name of it) where vamps are the shabby and mostly dumb villains don't do much to give them a human character either

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#11 · 1 Juli, 2004, 1440
Zitat von maestro am 1 Juli, 2004, 1440 Uhr

true, but given Dusk 'till Dawn (the film you were thinking of) and the Buffy/Angel francise are a good few years, I was more talking about the last 12-24 months.


true, but given Dusk 'till Dawn (the film you were thinking of) and the Buffy/Angel francise are a good few years, I was more talking about the last 12-24 months.

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#12 · 2 Juli, 2004, 0257
Zitat von maestro am 2 Juli, 2004, 0257 Uhr

might be a temporary fad in hollywood today - or do you think the image of the vampire did really change in the recent years, making him more human-like?

did the vampyre scene or the fact that some humans would identify with vampires do anything to contribute to this fact? the knowledge of film makers that there are those people, that not everyone would think of vampires as monsters?


might be a temporary fad in hollywood today - or do you think the image of the vampire did really change in the recent years, making him more human-like?

did the vampyre scene or the fact that some humans would identify with vampires do anything to contribute to this fact? the knowledge of film makers that there are those people, that not everyone would think of vampires as monsters?

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#13 · 3 Juli, 2004, 0404
Zitat von maestro am 3 Juli, 2004, 0404 Uhr

I'd like to say it was down to those factors, but it clearly isn't. The vampire "scene" is still viewed as the domain of freaks, and that won't cahnge any time soon.

IMHO I think it is merely down to screen writers providing a twist, audiences have seen "endless vampire goons turned to dust" done to death. With a film like the Blade franchise, the vampire aspect can be all but ignored, as to be honest the "vampires" could be anything, weres, drug addicts, etc. With other films however, it seems to be that if you are sticking in a character who is a "vampire", then you best have a decent back history for them and a bloody good reason for sticking them in there. Even modern vampire villans have emotions, motives and a past. A vampire being killed simply for being a vampire and therefore evil is not good enough these days. They, like James Bond villans, must have a plan to take over the world, or kill humans, or some other way to villify them that isn't directly tied to them being a vampire.

To me it just seems to reflect the mood of modern society towards race and the overly soft view the majority of the media has to take towards political correctness. Evil can't be born evil, it must be a frame of mind, backed up by acts and intent. Otherwise our heros would be racism and biggoted.

But this would be merely my own opinion.


I'd like to say it was down to those factors, but it clearly isn't. The vampire "scene" is still viewed as the domain of freaks, and that won't cahnge any time soon.

IMHO I think it is merely down to screen writers providing a twist, audiences have seen "endless vampire goons turned to dust" done to death. With a film like the Blade franchise, the vampire aspect can be all but ignored, as to be honest the "vampires" could be anything, weres, drug addicts, etc. With other films however, it seems to be that if you are sticking in a character who is a "vampire", then you best have a decent back history for them and a bloody good reason for sticking them in there. Even modern vampire villans have emotions, motives and a past. A vampire being killed simply for being a vampire and therefore evil is not good enough these days. They, like James Bond villans, must have a plan to take over the world, or kill humans, or some other way to villify them that isn't directly tied to them being a vampire.

To me it just seems to reflect the mood of modern society towards race and the overly soft view the majority of the media has to take towards political correctness. Evil can't be born evil, it must be a frame of mind, backed up by acts and intent. Otherwise our heros would be racism and biggoted.

But this would be merely my own opinion.

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#14 · 12 Juli, 2004, 2030
Zitat von belos am 12 Juli, 2004, 2030 Uhr

To me it just seems to reflect the mood of modern society towards race and the overly soft view the majority of the media has to take towards political correctness. Evil can't be born evil, it must be a frame of mind, backed up by acts and intent. Otherwise our heros would be racism and biggoted. ......................

*barf*
"politically correct"...the most assholish notion ever inflicted upon ourselves.

And you are right...Hollywood, as well as the media, holds it up as a whore or a saint...whichever way the financial wind is blowing at the time for their interests.

..they can all bite my Harry Potter!


To me it just seems to reflect the mood of modern society towards race and the overly soft view the majority of the media has to take towards political correctness. Evil can't be born evil, it must be a frame of mind, backed up by acts and intent. Otherwise our heros would be racism and biggoted. ......................

*barf*
"politically correct"...the most assholish notion ever inflicted upon ourselves.

And you are right...Hollywood, as well as the media, holds it up as a whore or a saint...whichever way the financial wind is blowing at the time for their interests.

..they can all bite my Harry Potter!

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